Lighthouse Quests – When to play and when not to play

Greetings,

I will be using a red lighthouse to indicate when not to play these quests and a green lighthouse when it is back to normal. After the Plarium update here a day or so ago, the payout on the lighthouse quests has changed. It now takes double the bank needed to payout and they reduced the payout 25%. Here are the numbers before the update and after.

Before:
starting offense 7150218 mix of troops
starting defense 0 troops
I spent a total of 2,942,110 million in offense doing this run showing bank needed about 3 million for first big payout
ending offense 6726972 mostly jugs
ending defense 200,000 mostly subs

payout 20-25% Bank will take about 35-40% net loss is about 15-20% per fight:
20% – 25% at lighthouse fight #1-8

80% at at lighthouse fight #9 – troops 223,200 offense

20% – 25% at lighthouse level #10

30% at lighthouse level #11

At lighthouse fight #12 – a level 62 fight
Payout 400%
1,861,440 in jugs
223 in subs
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After:
1.) D – Level 24 – Lost 9,145 Won 960
2.) O – Level 15 – Lost 4,320 Won 735
3.) D – Level 29 – Lost 16,540 Won 1,360
4.) O – Level 15 – Lost 3,480 Won 615
5.) O – Level 29 – Lost 30,835 Won 6,480
6.) O – Level 21 – Lost 11,475 Won 2,500
7.) O – Level 29 – Lost 37,695 Won 7,080
8.) O – Level 21 – Lost 37,695 Won 9,485
9.) D – Level 42 – Lost 36,245 Won 7,300
10.) O – Level 31 – Lost 39,655 Won 7,200
11.) D – Level 43 – Lost 32,720 Won 7,200
12.) D – Level 32 – Lost 13,990 Won 4,050
13.) O – Level 44 – Lost 145,720 Won 29,400
14.) D – Level 51 – Lost 48,790 Won 12,360
15.) D – Level 45 – Lost 41,490 Won 23,160
16.) O – Level 55 – Lost 283,770 Won 80,100
17.) O – Level 64 – Lost 561,585 Won 124,050
18.) O – Level 55 – Lost 337,580 Won 83,640
19.) O – Level 69 – Lost 732,780 Won 196,320
20.) O – Level 59 – Lost 571,525 Won 191,700
21.) O – Level 69 – Lost 726,880 Won 186,000
22.) O – Level 59 – Lost 512,280 Won 1,730,880
Payout of 1202 SOL about %325
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Notice the ratio when it did pay out on battle 22. My recommendation is to stop playing the lighthouse until all the Holiday events are over. save your rubies.

– Shibu

5 thoughts on “Lighthouse Quests – When to play and when not to play”

  1. Update 6/16/2017

    There is no advantage yet to play the lighthouse for building troops. After today’s update, they shorten the time it took to break even, but that is all you will do. See below.

    1.) 6,480 + 1,490 level 17 = 4.35
    2.) 8,100 + 1,440 level 18 = 5.63
    3.) 12,660 + 7,800 level 20 = 1.62
    4.) 46,200 + 8,640 level 33 = 5.35
    5.) 18,960 + 6,715 level 23 = 2.82
    6.) 24,030 + 4,580 level 26 = 5.25
    7.) 41,940 + 7,400 level 30 = 5.68

    Sum 158,370 + 38,065 = 4.16

    8.) 325,900 + 73,580 level 56 = 4.43
    9.) 179,500 + 46,800 level 46 = 3.84
    10.) 393,120 + 94,080 level 60 = 4.17
    11.) 217,440 + 55,600 level 50 = 3.91
    12.) 646,560 + 166,500 level 69 = 3.88
    13.) 432,720 + 96,840 level 62 = 4.47
    14.) 712,080 + 158,265 level 69 = 4.50
    15.) 579,330 + 150,880 level 67 = 3.84
    16.) 602,415 + 169,554 level 68 = 3.55
    17.) 539,745 + 2,855,140 level 67+ = -5.30

    Sum 4,787,390 + 3,905,304

    Payout 3117 Frigates 623 Gunboats this was about 500% payout. However, it took 50% more battles to win it. Costing troops and only breaking even. The lighthouse will remain RED!

  2. 1.) D loss 5,105 won 1000 ratio 5.105 Level 20
    2.) D loss 1,350 won 460 ratio 2.93 Level 11
    3.) D loss 5,430 won 2300 ratio 2.36 Level 20
    4.) O loss 3,240 won 720 rato 4.5 Level 12
    5.) O loss 18,000 won 3,090 ratio 5.83 Level 20
    6.) O loss 2,760 won 725 ratio 3.8 Level 12
    7.) O loss 24,520 won 4,700 ratio 5.2 Level 22
    8.) O loss 4,080 won 1,130 ratio 3.6 Level 13
    9.) O loss 21,100 won 3,600 ratio 5.86 Level 23
    10.) O loss 7,680 won 2,095 ratio 3.67 Level 16
    11.) O loss 32,935 won 102,480 ratio .32 Level 25

    Paid out 60 Jugs and 14 subs
    Lost mostly Marauders and got back Jugs but did not gain in troop count. Lost in total power, but now I can rebuild marauders and have 60 Jugs.

    Starting total offense 398,620 ending total offense 373,983
    Starting total defense 98,912 ending total defense 67,386

    Lighthouse stays red to increase troop size and green to upgrade troop type.

  3. Lighthouse Bank Payout Level Ratio

    1.) Offense 3,000 760 14 3.95
    2.) Offense 4,320 1,190 16 3.63
    3.) Offense 3,800 1,040 16 3.65
    4.) Offense 43,950 13,680 30 3.21
    5.) Offense 13,190 1,680 22 7.85
    6.) Offense 20,750 7,200 28 2.88
    7.) Offense 125,280 37,200 42 3.37
    8.) Offense 42,120 12,560 29 3.35
    9.) Offense 172,680 40,320 48 4.28
    10.) Offense 26,380 7,700 30 3.43
    11.) Defense 41,875 20,520 45 2.04
    12.) Offense 210,720 44,640 53 4.72
    13.) Offense 342,730 88,800 59 3.86
    14.) Offense 273,240 88,080 53 3.10
    15.) Offense 466,800 145,660 58 3.20
    16.) Offense 862,840 2,949,940 71 0.29

    2015 Ship of the line 403 Subs increased 2 million in total offense and 96,00 gold

    2,653,675 bank minus 511,030 payouts from 0-15 =2,142,645 subtract from battle 16 payout of 2 2,949,940 with an increase of power by 807,295 and an upgrade in troops from mostly feeders to SOL (feeders are anything from fleet on down). Lighthouse is Green.

  4. After the 8PM refresh, the battle ratios all went up. I need to put the lighthouse back to RED. see below stats from this evening and compare ratios with those from this mornings run above.

    1.) O-Bank 32,450 Payout 6,680 Level 29 Ratio 4.86
    2.) O-Bank 8,510 Payout 1,680 Level 20 Ratio 5.10
    3.) O-Bank 47,550 Payout 8,640 Level 33 Ratio 5.50
    4.) O-Bank 15,720 Payout 3,990 Level 23 Ratio 3.93
    5.) O-Bank 46,820 Payout 9,705 Level 33 Ratio 4.82
    6.) O-Bank 13,400 Payout 3,900 Level 23 Ratio 3.44
    7.) O-Bank 18,360 Payout 4,080 Level 25 Ratio 4.50
    8.) O-Bank 281,100 Payout 73,280 Level 57 Ratio 3.84
    9.) O-Bank 158,820 Payout 34,440 Level 46 Ratio 4.61
    10.) O-Bank 348,480 Payout 74,880 Level 61 Ratio 4.65
    11.) O-Bank 235,860 Payout 66,600 Level 51 Ratio 3.54
    12.) O-Bank 457,740 Payout 126,000 Level 62 Ratio 3.63
    13.) O-Bank 198,900 Payout 55,800 Level 51 Ratio 3.56
    14.) O-Bank 391,080 Payout 87,840 Level 63 Ratio 4.45
    15.) O-Bank 203,820 Payout 46,080 Level 52 Ratio 4.42
    16.) O-Bank 532,320 Payout 131,660 Level 67 Ratio 4.04
    17.) O-Bank 216,360 Payout 59,040 Level 52 Ratio 3.66
    18.) O-Bank 459,720 Payout 125,540 Level 67 Ratio 3.66
    19.) D-Bank 74,240 Payout 47,520 Level 59 Ratio 1.56
    19.) D-Bank 98,400 Payout 646,700 Level 68 Ratio 0.15

    The payout was in defense, 6367 Man-o-war. This equil to 5,335,546 in defense. Did not break even. Lighthouse is back to RED!

    Offense I lost about 2.7 million
    3,667,010
    – 919,835
    2,747,175

  5. Shibu – All The Kings Men – Today at 6:24 PM
    This is from two havens, one level 85 and has rubies and spends money the second one is level 56, no rubies and spends nothing.
    Shibu – All The Kings Men – Today at 5:56 PM
    1.) O Bank 1,275 180 level 10 ratio 7.08
    2.) O Bank 1,290 375 level 11 ratio 3.44
    3.) O Bank 43,650 12,480 level 11 ratio 3.50
    4.) O Bank 17,560 2,880 level 11 ratio 6.10
    ave ratio 5.03
    Shibu – All The Kings Men – Today at 6:21 PM
    1.) O Bank 1,080 150 level 9 ratio 7.2
    2.) O Bank 2,400 660 level 12 ratio 3.64
    3.) O Bank 3,060 720 level 13 ratio 4.25
    4.) O Bank 4,880 1,030 level 15 ratio 3.7

    Ave Ratio 5.7
    level 56 haven, top level lighthouse 40
    No rubies
    What we can determine is this, Player level, haven level, lighthouse level, ruby level and special offers of the day have no effect on the battle ratios
    I am starting to believe, that this lighthouse quest get updated 3-4 times a day and it is random on where it sets the level.
    The swing of the ratio is also random. As you can see, I have some that are above 7.0
    if you play lighthouse quest here is my recommendation. Play 4 low level fights, divide what was paid to bank by what you win as show above and record this ratio. after 4 battles, add the ratios together and divide by 4 or the number of battles you ran.
    if this results with a ratio over 4.0 stop playing and wait for the next random generator update. Some have seen it has much better ratios in the morning than in the evening.
    Bank divided by win = ratio
    I only use the offense base number to determine Bank and Win totals.
    As both offense and defense have one base offensive number that you can count on. Do not include any bonus numbers. Only use the base number.